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PLEASE NOTE: THIS GROUP IS INTENDED TO BE BOTH INFORMATIVE AND FUN:  IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINIONS WITHOUT RESORTING TO INSULTS AND STRONG LANGUAGE THEN THIS GROUP IS NOT FOR YOU:  PLEASE DO NOT JOIN


 


How it works:


We initially invite members to suggest topics that are often controversial in nature.  Due to limited topics, these are not restricted to Benidorm, although we especially invite ideas that are Benidorm related on a regular basis.  Subjects such as conspiracy theories can be great topics.  We would prefer to stay away from subjects which other members hold close to their hearts or may feel uncomfortable discussing such as religion and similar topics. The topics discussed may also be purely for fun.  (For example: If laughter is the best medicine.  Is a comedian of more value to the world than a chemist) 


Having agreed on a subject we put the subject to an initial vote to the Group to see if there is sufficient diversity of opinion before opening the topic for debate.


Debates then take place in one of three formats.


Format 1 The open forum.  


This is when the votes suggest there is roughly an even split in opinions.  In this case everyone is invited to join the discussion.  We ask that all members join the discussion with an open mind.  It is fun to try to convince others that your opinion is right.  It is also fun to be prepared to concede to someone else's opinion when they argue a point you never thought of before.  At the end of an pre agreed time span we have a closing vote and see if one side was able to sway the other.  


Format 2 Head to Head 


This form of debate takes place when the initial vote suggests there are only a small number of people with a strong opinion on the subject (we need a minimum of two opposing views).  Most other members are undecided.  In this case the members concerned partake in head to head discussions. (A bit like the presidential debates in America).   Other members simply observe and wait to be convinced.  Their role is primarily restricted to asking questions of the members in contest.  The observers are in effect the Jury that will decide who is right and who is wrong.  A closing poll will decide who won the debate.  


Format 3 The Devils Advocate


This form of debate takes place when there is an opinion held held by a very small minority.  Perhaps on occasions only one person.  That person or persons is then challenged to play the Devils Advocate.  The idea is to hold your own against an entire group opposed to your opinion.  Note it can be great fun to attempt to play the Devils advocate even on a subject you do not actually believe in.  


Everyone welcome, but remember, we will not tolerate inappropriate behaviour.  You will be removed.  


 

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  •   Derek commented on this post about 17 hours ago
    Another contentious subject at the moment is the US Supreme Court's decision to end the constitutional right to abortion

    Should women always have the right to choose?
    Should it only be allowed in certain circumstances (eg rape, threat to mother's health etc)
    Will this lead to the increase in back-street abortions?
    Do you think other countries will follow the US?
    • Yes, women should have the right to choose - and I agree it will lead to back street abortions and all the risks attached to those. It's yet anotherYes, women should have the right to choose - and I agree it will lead to back street abortions and all the risks attached to those. It's yet another element of control  More ...
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    • This one is a very gray area with nowhere to place a line to make it black and white.

      I'm not so sure other countries will follow suit as it isThis one is a very gray area with nowhere to place a line to make it black and white.

      I'm not so sure other countries will follow suit as it is ruling guided very much by religious beliefs in America. Once God gives life, it cannot be taken away logic.

      When religion is removed from the picture it still becomes impossible to define the beginning of a life. You could argue that prior to about 23 weeks a foetus cannot survive and therefore up to that point it is the mothers choice, but then medical science is likely to reduce that time over the years. The point of Birth? Again is there really much difference between 38 weeks and 40 weeks. The child will have no memory of it's birth. The point of consciousness becomes unthinkable, as that takes child to three years old. There is simply no point to place the line.

      I think religious beliefs will always dictate this one and the world is a very long way from agreeing on that subject. While religion will dictate the laws of each country, even in an atheist world, there will still the problem of where is the line and at what point does the health and welfare of the Mother cease to take priority over the life of the child. I agree with Tracy as well that the Father should also be considered, provided of course the child is not a result of a sexual attack. That adds more problems to an already very complex problem.
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    • I don't think it should be prohibited but on the other hand I don't think it should be available on demand without reason. Each case needsI don't think it should be prohibited but on the other hand I don't think it should be available on demand without reason. Each case needs considering carefully depending on the circumstances.
      I also agree that, if the couple are in a relationship, the father should be consulted. The mother carries the baby but it is still his child.
      Banning it completely is not the answer
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    • Carol Andrew yes fully agree each individual case needs to be given careful consideration and all the circumstances taken into account, maybe moreCarol Andrew yes fully agree each individual case needs to be given careful consideration and all the circumstances taken into account, maybe more counselling should be provided, its a massive decision for any woman to make and once done can not be undone, but making it illegal is not the answer and will just force women to take unnecessary risks. There should always be a choice but a carefully thought out one, every women's circumstances are different. This just seems to be putting us back in the dark ages, where women have no rights or say in matters of their own health, next they will be bringing back burning witches at the stake.  More ...
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    • Carol Andrew this causes another issue as well - if the couple are no longer in a relationship, or possibly never were, and the father will haveCarol Andrew this causes another issue as well - if the couple are no longer in a relationship, or possibly never were, and the father will have nothing to do with the child should he still be involved in the decision? He won't be the one carrying the child and won't be contributing in any way to its life but it is still his baby.  More ...
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    • Hazel If the father wants nothing to do with the child then it should be the mothers decision, but if its the other way round and the mother does notHazel If the father wants nothing to do with the child then it should be the mothers decision, but if its the other way round and the mother does not want to raise the child and the father will thats a different story, she should not be permitted to abort, so, so many gray areas with this topic.  More ...
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    • Tracy Ann I agree loads of grey areas - another being if they're no longer together should he even be told. Morally, yes, but could depend on theTracy Ann I agree loads of grey areas - another being if they're no longer together should he even be told. Morally, yes, but could depend on the reason for the break up. Very complicated, but I don't think it should be a decision that is removed by law  More ...
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    • There is no correct answer to this one. Every case is different and should be considered on its own merits
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    • I have just seen my daughters latest scan, she is about 15 weeks along, and this really puts things into perspective as the scans are so clear theseI have just seen my daughters latest scan, she is about 15 weeks along, and this really puts things into perspective as the scans are so clear these days, its very obviously a real baby/little person.  More ...
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  •   Maureen Kirby commented on this post about 2 days ago
    Does Political correctness have a place in comedy?
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    • Fully agree with your comments Carol, as you know I am Tracy, Blonde and from Essex and yes in the past have owned white shoes and danced round myFully agree with your comments Carol, as you know I am Tracy, Blonde and from Essex and yes in the past have owned white shoes and danced round my white handbag, do I ever get offended by the 100s of Essex Girl jokes I have heard over the years, no of course not, why because it is a JOKE and no aimed at me personally.
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    • But she was easy
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    • Whilst on this subject one of the most ridiculous things in recent years is that the rhyme bah bah black sheep can no longer be used...... why onWhilst on this subject one of the most ridiculous things in recent years is that the rhyme bah bah black sheep can no longer be used...... why on earth not, the colour black exists as do black sheep, they are a reality, so how on earth can there be anything wrong with that, the world is slowly going mad in my opinion and every one is over sensitive about far too many things these days.  More ...
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    • Tracy Ann totally agree. Likewise the golliwog on the jam jars - it was a stuffed toy! The people who saw otherwise and banned it are the ones with aTracy Ann totally agree. Likewise the golliwog on the jam jars - it was a stuffed toy! The people who saw otherwise and banned it are the ones with a problem  More ...
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    • Tracy Ann Most certainly Tracy Ann.the world is slowly going mad.So very scary.☹️☹️☹️
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    • I think all this silliness could actually be making the younger generation even more racist to be honest.
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    • Tracy Ann Never thought of that, but you could well be right.
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    • People who are offended by humour are often not intelligent enough to understand the humour. Alf Garnett or the TV program Love they Neighbour forPeople who are offended by humour are often not intelligent enough to understand the humour. Alf Garnett or the TV program Love they Neighbour for example would now be considered offensive. In reality it was the racist we were laughing at, not the people they were being racist to. I wonder were we stand If I become offended by someone else being offended by something I said. Believe me, if you are offended by the things I say, I dread to think how you would feel if you knew the things I held back.   More ...
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    • Derek another good point made that I had not thought of, if people are now having to hold back ie holding their thoughts in, is this going to makeDerek another good point made that I had not thought of, if people are now having to hold back ie holding their thoughts in, is this going to make for a generation of angry/depressed people?  More ...
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    • Racism or any other form of offensive statement does not exist in "content", it exists only in "intent". Perhaps social media plays a bigger part inRacism or any other form of offensive statement does not exist in "content", it exists only in "intent". Perhaps social media plays a bigger part in the changes we face than we realise. It is very easy to misinterpret the written word, even when perfect punctuation is used. Those who know us can recognise the intent, when those who do not know us will often misinterpret it. With Social Media we have all broadened our range of acquittances, but perhaps narrowed our range of friends.   More ...
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    • Derek always been the reason I prefer to speak to people rather than text, far too easy to misinterpret the written word.
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    • Derek I agree with your statement about 'content' and 'intent'.
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