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PLEASE NOTE: THIS GROUP IS INTENDED TO BE BOTH INFORMATIVE AND FUN:  IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINIONS WITHOUT ...

PLEASE NOTE: THIS GROUP IS INTENDED TO BE BOTH INFORMATIVE AND FUN:  IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINIONS WITHOUT RESORTING TO INSULTS AND STRONG LANGUAGE THEN THIS GROUP IS NOT FOR YOU:  PLEASE DO NOT JOIN


 


How it works:


We initially invite members to suggest topics that are often controversial in nature.  Due to limited topics, these are not restricted to Benidorm, although we especially invite ideas that are Benidorm related on a regular basis.  Subjects such as conspiracy theories can be great topics.  We would prefer to stay away from subjects which other members hold close to their hearts or may feel uncomfortable discussing such as religion and similar topics. The topics discussed may also be purely for fun.  (For example: If laughter is the best medicine.  Is a comedian of more value to the world than a chemist) 


Having agreed on a subject we put the subject to an initial vote to the Group to see if there is sufficient diversity of opinion before opening the topic for debate.


Debates then take place in one of three formats.


Format 1 The open forum.  


This is when the votes suggest there is roughly an even split in opinions.  In this case everyone is invited to join the discussion.  We ask that all members join the discussion with an open mind.  It is fun to try to convince others that your opinion is right.  It is also fun to be prepared to concede to someone else's opinion when they argue a point you never thought of before.  At the end of an pre agreed time span we have a closing vote and see if one side was able to sway the other.  


Format 2 Head to Head 


This form of debate takes place when the initial vote suggests there are only a small number of people with a strong opinion on the subject (we need a minimum of two opposing views).  Most other members are undecided.  In this case the members concerned partake in head to head discussions. (A bit like the presidential debates in America).   Other members simply observe and wait to be convinced.  Their role is primarily restricted to asking questions of the members in contest.  The observers are in effect the Jury that will decide who is right and who is wrong.  A closing poll will decide who won the debate.  


Format 3 The Devils Advocate


This form of debate takes place when there is an opinion held held by a very small minority.  Perhaps on occasions only one person.  That person or persons is then challenged to play the Devils Advocate.  The idea is to hold your own against an entire group opposed to your opinion.  Note it can be great fun to attempt to play the Devils advocate even on a subject you do not actually believe in.  


Everyone welcome, but remember, we will not tolerate inappropriate behaviour.  You will be removed.  


 

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  •   Tracy Ann commented on this post about 1 week ago
    Tracy Ann
    Tracy Ann The Devils Advocate (Benidorm's Debating Society)
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    So you see someone passed out on the street and take their phone.............

    "Found him in this state last night,(photo removed) tried getting him up but he wouldn’t budge! I've got his phone So if anyone knows him please ring it and I can give him his phone back !"

    Was this the right thing to do. I think NOT.... in my opinion - Taking the phone is totally illegal. If the user reported the phone stolen before seeing the post, they could find themselves in a lot of trouble. If the...
    So you see someone passed out on the street and take their phone.............

    "Found him in this state last night,(photo removed) tried getting him up but he wouldn’t budge! I've got his phone So if anyone knows him please ring it and I can give him his phone back !"

    Was this the right thing to do. I think NOT.... in my opinion - Taking the phone is totally illegal. If the user reported the phone stolen before seeing the post, they could find themselves in a lot of trouble. If the the owner never sees the post, and never gets his phone back, ask yourself who would be considered the thief........... Its no different to seeing some one passed out and taking their wallet.

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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      Lots of people saying on the post that its a good job she took the phone or it would have been nicked.... Is that not just what she has done?
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    • Hazel
      Hazel
      Apparently, someone has commented that the account is possibly a hacked account as it´s not been used in over a year! Personally, had he been in aApparently, someone has commented that the account is possibly a hacked account as it´s not been used in over a year! Personally, had he been in a bar and poster felt there was a risk of the phone being taken, they could have handed it in at the bar where the staff could have given him it back when he came to a bit. Unless it was lying beside him on the street, then they would had have to have gone through his pockets to get it, and that´s a whole other story. I guess if it was just lying there, then maybe they did think someone would take it and not put up a post etc to let people know, but still risky. If they felt that was the best option, they should then have taken it to the SATE office. How is he supposed to contact anyone when he comes to if he has no phone! If his friends phone to find out where he is, fair enough OP can answer, but if they´ve not stayed with him then they have no idea where he is at the point his friends phone, so he´s no better off.  More ...
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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      Hazel and even worse, it looks like she has now deleted the entire post, so he has no chace of getting his phone back, so its now out and out theft. Hazel and even worse, it looks like she has now deleted the entire post, so he has no chace of getting his phone back, so its now out and out theft. I would love to have seen her explaine to the police how she got his phone.
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    • Hazel
      Hazel
      Tracy Ann if it´s a fake account, then it could just be someone trying to cover themselves with no intentions whatsoever of returning the phone. Tracy Ann if it´s a fake account, then it could just be someone trying to cover themselves with no intentions whatsoever of returning the phone. Sort of, if anyone saw me then I can say I´ve put a post up about it type of thing. Extremely strange thing to have done.  More ...
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    • Hazel
      Hazel
      The other option is that someone has phoned it and it´s all been sorted out, but you´d think she would have updated the post rather than removing it.The other option is that someone has phoned it and it´s all been sorted out, but you´d think she would have updated the post rather than removing it. Guess we´ll never know.  More ...
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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      Hazel I doubt that to be honest.
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    • Hazel
      Hazel
      Tracy Ann me too, just being hopeful
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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      The question is what would you have done, in the above circumstances?
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    • THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
      THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
      She was right to nick the phone. Oppertunities like that don't come up very often. Grab it while your luck is in. Also Hazels idea to put up aShe was right to nick the phone. Oppertunities like that don't come up very often. Grab it while your luck is in. Also Hazels idea to put up a post to pretend you were going to return it, just in case. Brilliant! Love a good criminal mind. Well done.   More ...
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    • Carol Andrew
      Carol Andrew
      If I found someone passed out then I would call the police. It is possible that it is not a simple case of being drunk. I would certainly not touchIf I found someone passed out then I would call the police. It is possible that it is not a simple case of being drunk. I would certainly not touch his phone.  More ...
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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      Carol Andrew Yes thats exactly what I would have done.
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  •   THE DEVILS ADVOCATE commented on this post about 1 week ago
    Tracy Ann
    Tracy Ann The Devils Advocate (Benidorm's Debating Society)
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    The Spanish government is CONSIDERING a 100% tax surcharge on property purchases by non-EU, non-resident foreigners.
    This "State Complementary Tax" would double the existing Property Transfer Tax (ITP).

    Example: Buying a second-hand home for €500,000 would trigger an additional €500,000 tax—effectively doubling the purchase cost.

    What are your thoughts?????
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    • Carol Andrew
      Carol Andrew
      The proposal is to double the ITP (the tax) not the cost of the property.
      In the Valencian Community it is currently 10% of the purchase price. IfThe proposal is to double the ITP (the tax) not the cost of the property.
      In the Valencian Community it is currently 10% of the purchase price. If they double the ITP it would then be 20%. So in your example of buying a home for €500,000, you would pay €600,000 instead of €550,000 - an extra €50,000.
      Also, the increase is only for non-residents so people could come to Spain and rent until they have their TIE and then buy a house. They would then pay 10% ITP as at present.        More ...
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    • THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
      THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
      This should be called Racist tax!

      The Keeper of the toll bridge
      "Everyone must pay 10€ to pass me. Oh look, there's two foreigners, I'll chargeThis should be called Racist tax!

      The Keeper of the toll bridge
      "Everyone must pay 10€ to pass me. Oh look, there's two foreigners, I'll charge them 20€"

      What's the difference?        More ...
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    • Hazel
      Hazel
      THE DEVILS ADVOCATE it´s because of the lack of available properties for residents to be able to rent due to non-residents buying up properties toTHE DEVILS ADVOCATE it´s because of the lack of available properties for residents to be able to rent due to non-residents buying up properties to rent out as holiday lets, so I guess as long as it only applies to people who have no intentions of living here then I can see their point.  More ...
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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      Hazel Yes, there are now so few long term rentals available for those of us that do live here.
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    • THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
      THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
      Hazel The lack of available properties is only an excuse to allow for the collection of more tax. What about the rights of a property owner. SurelyHazel The lack of available properties is only an excuse to allow for the collection of more tax. What about the rights of a property owner. Surely they should be permitted to use their own property for any purpose they see fit. It's their investment and therefore should be allowed to generate the maxium return from that investment. If short term rentals is where the money is, then that's the road they will want to go down.   More ...
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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      THE DEVILS ADVOCATE Say that when you are trying to find a long term rental.... There are now so few available for those of us that actually liveTHE DEVILS ADVOCATE Say that when you are trying to find a long term rental.... There are now so few available for those of us that actually live here full time.   More ...
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    • Hazel
      Hazel
      THE DEVILS ADVOCATE if they are resident here then they can use it how they like, it´s only for those that are non-resident - and they can still useTHE DEVILS ADVOCATE if they are resident here then they can use it how they like, it´s only for those that are non-resident - and they can still use it however they like, they just have to pay extra to buy the property, since it´s obvious that it´s not for them to stay in since they don´t reside here.  More ...
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  •   Dean Holden commented on this post about 1 week ago
    Tracy Ann
    Tracy Ann The Devils Advocate (Benidorm's Debating Society)
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    5️⃣ If you could change one thing about Benidorm, what would it be?
    🤔 Serious or light-hearted answers welcome!
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    • Derek
      Derek
      Improve the clientele. Maybe I'm a snob, but it's my honest answer.
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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      Derek I agree with that, far too many stag and hen groups have now taken over, they used to be here for just a few months of the year, now its allDerek I agree with that, far too many stag and hen groups have now taken over, they used to be here for just a few months of the year, now its all year round.  More ...
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    • Graham Wilson
      Graham Wilson
      Tracy Ann I agree far too many arrive Thursday leave Monday /Tuesday and behave badly whilst in Beni I prefer to see people who can remember whatTracy Ann I agree far too many arrive Thursday leave Monday /Tuesday and behave badly whilst in Beni I prefer to see people who can remember what they did 3 hours ago   More ...
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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      Graham Wilson The other thing I can not understand here, is that so many hotels do not accept group bookings, and the town hall, say they want toGraham Wilson The other thing I can not understand here, is that so many hotels do not accept group bookings, and the town hall, say they want to improve the "class" of visitors, yet they keep granting new bars that are aimed at just those groups,ie large terraces and cheap drinks. The two things just do not add up.

      I have lived in Benidorm itself since 2011 and yes it has changed over the years, I understand that we need to move with the times, but am not sure the stag and hen route is the way to go, as in other countries that popularity did not actually last for that long. Benidorm just seems to be the "IN" place for it at the moment.

      Who knows what the future holds, but I still love this city, and the amout of bad press we get in the UK tabloids is another one of my pet hates, as it give a completely incorrect picture of Benidorm.

      We all know that every city has its bad areas, but Benidorm still has something for everyone, no matter what you are looking for from a holiday.         More ...
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    • Derek
      Derek
      Graham Wilson I can't remember what I did three hours ago. Ask me about 1975, there's a better chance I'll remember
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    • Graham Wilson
      Graham Wilson
      Tracy Ann UK tabloids write up scare stories for anywhere if it gets a some column inches filled and a lot of times it's clickbait to get people toTracy Ann UK tabloids write up scare stories for anywhere if it gets a some column inches filled and a lot of times it's clickbait to get people to read other trash stories   More ...
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    • THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
      THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
      Make it hotter! Always feels cold when I have to leave home to visit.
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    • Hazel
      Hazel
      The rude t-shirts they seem to be once again hanging outside the shops and some of the bouncers - although, if as Derek put, they improve theThe rude t-shirts they seem to be once again hanging outside the shops and some of the bouncers - although, if as Derek put, they improve the clientele then that part might be a knock on effect anyway.  More ...
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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      Hazel Yes the amount of rude T-shirts that hang right at childrens eyeline height is just not right, there was a petition in town before covid, thatHazel Yes the amount of rude T-shirts that hang right at childrens eyeline height is just not right, there was a petition in town before covid, that removed all these from sight, they had to be put towards the back of the shops. I think that should be bought back in again.   More ...
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    • Hazel
      Hazel
      Tracy Ann I remember them being removed, but they´re back with a vengeance now - and they´re not even funny, just downright rude.
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    • Mark John Sheekey
      Mark John Sheekey
      I dont think stag/hen parties are the biggest problem they tend to stick to the same area and are easily avoided. Besides, look at what happened inI dont think stag/hen parties are the biggest problem they tend to stick to the same area and are easily avoided. Besides, look at what happened in places like Dublin, Prague and Amsterdam when they clamped down and 'gentrified', prices for drinks accomodation etc. went though the roof and only served to encourage latte drinkers, bike riders and Tik Tokkers !
      Nor the T shirts, pretty sure most of the kids could teach the T shirt makers a thing or two about colourful language. No, leave Benidorm well alone, as mentioned here, something for everyone and someone for everything.
      PS. As far as the press goes only the red tops seems to have a thing for places like Benidorm, check out Leah Pattem's article in the Guardian 25/6

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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      Mark John Sheekey Yes its amazing how the tabloids change their tune every 5 minutes, one week a bad article and a few days later a good one, andMark John Sheekey Yes its amazing how the tabloids change their tune every 5 minutes, one week a bad article and a few days later a good one, and both written by the same person in one instance lol Just click bait headlines.   More ...
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    • THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
      THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
      Mark John Sheekey "they tend to stick to the same area and are easily avoided" I don't agree with this statment. That used to be the case when thsyMark John Sheekey "they tend to stick to the same area and are easily avoided" I don't agree with this statment. That used to be the case when thsy spent their time in the so called "British Square". That has now spilled over into Calle Gerona which was always the main street for cabaret. To avoid the big groups means avoiding a lot of the main cabaret bars. Some with exclusive acts than cannot be found in the cabaret bars located in quieter areas.

      Also regarding the tee shirts. Yes kids are a lot more in touch with the real world than kids of my youth, but there is still very young kids who should be allowed to be children a bit longer and parents should not have to deflect questions on sexual topics. It's not difficult to displays these items at the back of a shop (at least during the day) and to keep them above the eye level of a child.         More ...
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    • Mark John Sheekey
      Mark John Sheekey
      It's a fair point, but on the other hand some of the venues with the best acts are almost impossible to get into on any night, The Tropical beingIt's a fair point, but on the other hand some of the venues with the best acts are almost impossible to get into on any night, The Tropical being just one example. Just have to check out the what's on guide on this website and try and catch them on a 'quiet' night !  More ...
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  •   THE DEVILS ADVOCATE commented on this post about 2 weeks ago
    Tracy Ann
    Tracy Ann The Devils Advocate (Benidorm's Debating Society)
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    “I paid £750 for all-inclusive – then spent hundreds more just to get a drink I liked.”
    Susan Edwards, 69, says her TUI holiday to Corfu was the worst trip of her life:
    • No English food (“just rice, fish and a hard-boiled egg”)
    • €1.50 for water
    • €9 for a Bacardi & Coke
    • No entertainment
    • Hotel “in the middle of nowhere”
    • A £100 voucher offered – and rejected
    She says, “I could’ve gone to the Caribbean for what we spent.”
    👀 What do you think – is she right to be angry?
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    • Dave Rowland
      Dave Rowland
      She was just after compensation.. Or a free holiday... It's backfired on her big time.... Just looks an idiot now.
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    • Mark John Sheekey
      Mark John Sheekey
      What is considered to b English food ? Kebab, Pizza, Tikka Masala......!
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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      Mark John Sheekey Good point, we did actually have a member that complained that the hotel served no food for British clientel, then went on to sayMark John Sheekey Good point, we did actually have a member that complained that the hotel served no food for British clientel, then went on to say they had to go over the rood for a Chinese most nights lol   More ...
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    • THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
      THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
      Mark John Sheekey By English food she means, anything that she likes, but not things she doesn't like.
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    • Carol Andrew
      Carol Andrew
      Many years ago, when I first came to Spain, I asked a Spanish friend to cook me a meal of the food that they would normally eat. They cooked meMany years ago, when I first came to Spain, I asked a Spanish friend to cook me a meal of the food that they would normally eat. They cooked me chicken and chips   More ...
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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      Carol Andrew I bet you were looking forward to a lovely Paella lol
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    • Carol Andrew
      Carol Andrew
      Tracy Ann Yes, something like that although, since living in Valencia, I have learned than a true paella doesn't contain shellfish. It is justTracy Ann Yes, something like that although, since living in Valencia, I have learned than a true paella doesn't contain shellfish. It is just chicken and rabbit and occasionally snails.  More ...
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    • Graham Wilson
      Graham Wilson
      We stopped using hotels because they were overpriced and catered to the lowest common denominator when we come to Spain we're there for 3 months notWe stopped using hotels because they were overpriced and catered to the lowest common denominator when we come to Spain we're there for 3 months not a couple of weeks so we know where the decent Tapas are and Paella we enjoy
      Yes we'll go to the Corner Bar for an English breakfast every now and then
      BUT
      We've stopped being ripped off by Travel Companies who don't care a shit about you         More ...
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    • Hazel
      Hazel
      Graham Wilson hotels can sometimes be overpriced, but not all of the time - I think sometimes it´s just trial and error and booking at just the rightGraham Wilson hotels can sometimes be overpriced, but not all of the time - I think sometimes it´s just trial and error and booking at just the right time. Not sure what you mean by the lowest common denominator, so can´t really comment on that, but I think it´s unfair to class all travel companies the same - some of the smaller ones definitely go above and beyond for their clients. I guess everyone´s experiences are different though.  More ...
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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      And this woman is getting press coverage, do they have nothing better to write about?
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    • THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
      THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
      Tracy Ann I knew she would do it if I put the idea in her head.
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  •   THE DEVILS ADVOCATE commented on this post about 2 weeks ago
    Tracy Ann
    Tracy Ann The Devils Advocate (Benidorm's Debating Society)
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    Ryanair Love them or Hate them - Have they now gone a step too far or is this good news - What do you think?

    ✈️ Ryanair now says: Cause trouble on board, and you’ll be fined £500 (minimum), if your antics delay or divert the flight.
    No warnings. No messing about. Straight off the plane – straight out of pocket.

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    • Hazel
      Hazel
      Something needs to be done, there are more and more cases appearing where people have caused mayhem on flights - and at the end of the day if theSomething needs to be done, there are more and more cases appearing where people have caused mayhem on flights - and at the end of the day if the plane has to be diverted at cost to the airline, that cost will eventually be put on to every other passenger with increased flight costs. Why should everyone else pay because some people can´t behave themselves.  More ...
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      Tracy Ann
      I agree something needs to be done, there are far too many travellers that have no consideration or respect for anyone elses safety. When you areI agree something needs to be done, there are far too many travellers that have no consideration or respect for anyone elses safety. When you are 30,000 feet up in the air who wants to be sitting next to an idiot, (or worse a large group of them), and yes we have seen some of these on flights, and there are plenty of news reports of flights being diverted due to infantile/dangerous behaviour and not just by Ryanair. As mentioned above why should the rest of us have to pay higher charges to use Ryanair, which get you from A - B at a reasonable cost.

      To be honest, yes a fine will hurt the person it is intended to in the pocket, but they should also have the police waiting for them as they get of the aircraft, and put straight back onto a homeward plane and a black mark placed on their passport which stayes in their for a minimum period of time (depending upon the offense commited), making future travel more difficult from their home country.

      Hopefully just the threat of these fines will have the desired effect.         More ...
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    • Carol Andrew
      Carol Andrew
      They could ban them from flying with Ryanair either for something like 10 years or even for life. They are entitled to do this. This is what cruiseThey could ban them from flying with Ryanair either for something like 10 years or even for life. They are entitled to do this. This is what cruise lines do.  More ...
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    • THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
      THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
      Some great ideas, but in practicality very difficut to police. Most problem behavior happens on the flight not before. (they know to behave to getSome great ideas, but in practicality very difficut to police. Most problem behavior happens on the flight not before. (they know to behave to get that far). Diverting at the slightest sign of problems will not please other passengers. You cannot combat inconvience with inconvience. Life time bans? Airlines don't have access to indepth information to confirm a passenger has not recently changed from a "banned" passport number. Can't turn ALL the John Smiths away in case it's him. I cannot see how they can do any more than they already do. Maybe remove the sale of alcohal from all filghts  More ...
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    • Carol Andrew
      Carol Andrew
      I think, with the new passports, it is easier to identify an individual with other than just their name. This information is carried forward from oneI think, with the new passports, it is easier to identify an individual with other than just their name. This information is carried forward from one passport to the next. If cruise lines can do it I am sure airlines can. If someone causes a problem on a flight, ban them from future flights - including their flight home.  More ...
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    • THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
      THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
      Carol Andrew And who will supervise that walk home?
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  •   Tracy Ann commented on this post about 1 month ago
    Carol Andrew
    Carol Andrew The Devils Advocate (Benidorm's Debating Society)
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    There is currently a discussion on the 'book of faeces' following a newspaper article saying that there is to be a new TV series of Benidorm.

    It has been stated that people have seen it being filmed and that the actor Tony Maudsley has left Corrie so it must be true.

    If it is coming back (which Derren Litten denies) do you think it is good publicity for Benidorm or does it show the resort in a bad light?
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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      I have been reading such articles about the programmes return for many, many months, and am not convinced its true, time will tell.

      In some respectsI have been reading such articles about the programmes return for many, many months, and am not convinced its true, time will tell.

      In some respects it has promoted the city and encouraged people to come, but no I do not think it shows Benidorm in a good light, its certainly not the REAL Benidorm, which any of us living here know.

      But as they say there is no such thing a bad PR lol         More ...
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      I think the trouble was that some people took the program too seriously.

      It was meant to be a 'tongue in cheek/mickey take' of a certain type ofI think the trouble was that some people took the program too seriously.

      It was meant to be a 'tongue in cheek/mickey take' of a certain type of person on an all inclusive package holiday.

      I have to say though, I loved the program and still watch some of the repeats on netflix and youtube.

      I loved the Garvey family and thought the series was best when they were in it. If it was to come back, I don't think Steve Pemberton or Siobhan Finneran would be in it. They have both moved on to bigger things now.        More ...
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      Carol Andrew I watched the first 2 seasons, just to see people I recognised in it, then gave up, it still makes me cringe when ever I watch it lol
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    • THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
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      I agree, no such thing as bad publicity. Look at the things that been said about me over the last couple of thousand years, but at least everyoneI agree, no such thing as bad publicity. Look at the things that been said about me over the last couple of thousand years, but at least everyone knows me.   More ...
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      Have never seen a single episode, but can't imagine a TV show could offer more drama/comedy than a couple of hours spent watching people from one ofHave never seen a single episode, but can't imagine a TV show could offer more drama/comedy than a couple of hours spent watching people from one of the terrace bar on market day.  More ...
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      Mark John Sheekey lol very true x
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    • Tracy Ann
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      Considering the news story that hit the papers just the other day - A 30-year-old British police officer has been suspended from duty, when during aConsidering the news story that hit the papers just the other day - A 30-year-old British police officer has been suspended from duty, when during a weekend getaway he took out his penis and urinated on a platform in one of the main bars in Calle Gerona, he was seen on CCTV running away from the bars security staff.

      I think this is the last thing that Benidorm needs to be promoting. Some need no encouragement to let it all hang out in completely unsuitable places, and yes you can be fined for doing so.

      Just wait for the UK press to get hold of this story, and use it as yet another excuse to bring Benidorm down.         More ...
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      Tracy Ann Maybe the days of Cabaret, Families and something for everyone are over. If it's a stag and hen resort now, this is the type of thing thatTracy Ann Maybe the days of Cabaret, Families and something for everyone are over. If it's a stag and hen resort now, this is the type of thing that attracts them. Let's face it. Young people change their mind very quickly and Benidorm might not be the "in place" for much longer, unless it becomes more outragious than everywhere else year by year.   More ...
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      When the new ETIAS comes into force (if it ever does). Anyone behaving like this should have it removed and be refused re-entry to Shengen for 5When the new ETIAS comes into force (if it ever does). Anyone behaving like this should have it removed and be refused re-entry to Shengen for 5 years.
      As far as the sign above that bar - how can they be allowed to do that when, a couple of years ago, a bar in Old Town was not allowed to hang union flag bunting.        More ...
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      Carol Andrew British Bunting of the Union Flag? Why shoud it be allowed? This is Spain! Did you know that it is illegal in most European countriesCarol Andrew British Bunting of the Union Flag? Why shoud it be allowed? This is Spain! Did you know that it is illegal in most European countries (and also in Britian) to fly the flag of another nation, except under certian conditions. Laws that make perfect sense and yet are ingnored far too often.

      As for the comparison between "show your bum and the Union flag". The only political connections I can see between the two is that the USA tend to "show their bum" these days as a symbol of national pride.         More ...
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    • Tracy Ann
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      Carol Andrew The problem here is not just the holiday makers, but the businesses lowering the tone of Benidorm. Should the town hall be stricterCarol Andrew The problem here is not just the holiday makers, but the businesses lowering the tone of Benidorm. Should the town hall be stricter about such things. I certainly think so.  More ...
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    • THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
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      Tracy Ann If you are aiming for a lower clietele should you not lower the tone? Maybe Benidorm has had enough of the pensioners playing bingo andTracy Ann If you are aiming for a lower clietele should you not lower the tone? Maybe Benidorm has had enough of the pensioners playing bingo and want those who will spend money.  More ...
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    • Tracy Ann
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      THE DEVILS ADVOCATE I think you will find that pensioners also spend money, and actually stay here for longer periods of time. The above is not justTHE DEVILS ADVOCATE I think you will find that pensioners also spend money, and actually stay here for longer periods of time. The above is not just putting off pensioners, but anyone not in the Stag & Hen bracket.   More ...
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    • Carol Andrew
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      I was referring to the man who urinated on the bar. They say he was a policeman - I am not sure of the relevance of that, even if true.

      That is theI was referring to the man who urinated on the bar. They say he was a policeman - I am not sure of the relevance of that, even if true.

      That is the sort of behaviour I want them to stop.

      The bar with the sign encouraging people to show their backsides. That is encouraging the wrong sort of behaviour.

      I have no problem with stag and hen parties but they should behave like civilised adults. My Mum always used to tell me "don't do anything you wouldn't want me to see you doing". I think that is good advice. I don't know if the guy in the bar's Mum would have approved         More ...
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    • Dave Rowland
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      Carol Andrew it was true... The video is all over the Spanish press
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    • Tracy Ann
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      This sort of thing shows no respect to anyone. I wonder if it would be allowed in the UK. I am all for young people enjoying themselves, but thereThis sort of thing shows no respect to anyone. I wonder if it would be allowed in the UK. I am all for young people enjoying themselves, but there has to be some sort of limit. How low will people fall, just to get a FREE drink, which is probably just a shot anyway, and what sort or clientel are the bar trying to lure in...... It certainly wont be me.  More ...
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    • THE DEVILS ADVOCATE
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      Tracy Ann "It certainly wont be me" Aw c'mon, wheres your sense of fun?
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    • Tracy Ann
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      THE DEVILS ADVOCATE There is fun and there is being completely stupid, I am capable of having fun without showing my ass just to get a free shot.
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    • Carol Andrew
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      Tracy Ann At 77, I don't think anyone would want me to show mine
      Looking again at that sign at Brit Station, I see it was only for one day (last Tracy Ann At 77, I don't think anyone would want me to show mine
      Looking again at that sign at Brit Station, I see it was only for one day (last Friday I believe). I wonder if it increased their sales or put people off? I hope it was just a one off.
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    • Tracy Ann
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      Carol Andrew Yes fingers crossed it was just a one off, in my opinion, its not the image Bendorm should be promoting, but maybe I am just getting oldCarol Andrew Yes fingers crossed it was just a one off, in my opinion, its not the image Bendorm should be promoting, but maybe I am just getting old lol   More ...
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