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The Devils Advocate (Benidorm's Debating Society)

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PLEASE NOTE: THIS GROUP IS INTENDED TO BE BOTH INFORMATIVE AND FUN:  IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINIONS WITHOUT ...

PLEASE NOTE: THIS GROUP IS INTENDED TO BE BOTH INFORMATIVE AND FUN:  IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINIONS WITHOUT RESORTING TO INSULTS AND STRONG LANGUAGE THEN THIS GROUP IS NOT FOR YOU:  PLEASE DO NOT JOIN


 


How it works:


We initially invite members to suggest topics that are often controversial in nature.  Due to limited topics, these are not restricted to Benidorm, although we especially invite ideas that are Benidorm related on a regular basis.  Subjects such as conspiracy theories can be great topics.  We would prefer to stay away from subjects which other members hold close to their hearts or may feel uncomfortable discussing such as religion and similar topics. The topics discussed may also be purely for fun.  (For example: If laughter is the best medicine.  Is a comedian of more value to the world than a chemist) 


Having agreed on a subject we put the subject to an initial vote to the Group to see if there is sufficient diversity of opinion before opening the topic for debate.


Debates then take place in one of three formats.


Format 1 The open forum.  


This is when the votes suggest there is roughly an even split in opinions.  In this case everyone is invited to join the discussion.  We ask that all members join the discussion with an open mind.  It is fun to try to convince others that your opinion is right.  It is also fun to be prepared to concede to someone else's opinion when they argue a point you never thought of before.  At the end of an pre agreed time span we have a closing vote and see if one side was able to sway the other.  


Format 2 Head to Head 


This form of debate takes place when the initial vote suggests there are only a small number of people with a strong opinion on the subject (we need a minimum of two opposing views).  Most other members are undecided.  In this case the members concerned partake in head to head discussions. (A bit like the presidential debates in America).   Other members simply observe and wait to be convinced.  Their role is primarily restricted to asking questions of the members in contest.  The observers are in effect the Jury that will decide who is right and who is wrong.  A closing poll will decide who won the debate.  


Format 3 The Devils Advocate


This form of debate takes place when there is an opinion held held by a very small minority.  Perhaps on occasions only one person.  That person or persons is then challenged to play the Devils Advocate.  The idea is to hold your own against an entire group opposed to your opinion.  Note it can be great fun to attempt to play the Devils advocate even on a subject you do not actually believe in.  


Everyone welcome, but remember, we will not tolerate inappropriate behaviour.  You will be removed.  


 

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  •   Derek commented on this post about 3 months ago
    Tracy Ann
    Tracy Ann The Devils Advocate (Benidorm's Debating Society)
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    Should the smarter "Designed for Adult" hotels in Benidorm have a dress code for their dining areas?
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    • Hazel
      Hazel
      Depends how strict the code is I guess. As long as they have clothes on - not swimwear for example - then I don't see that it's an issue. It's aDepends how strict the code is I guess. As long as they have clothes on - not swimwear for example - then I don't see that it's an issue. It's a bit like the school uniform rule, I don't think a child will become any smarter or less smart just because they're not wearing a school tie.  More ...
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      Tracy Ann
      If I am paying extra to stay in a luxury 4 star superior or 5 star hotel, then I don't think its unreasonable to expect a certain dress code to be inIf I am paying extra to stay in a luxury 4 star superior or 5 star hotel, then I don't think its unreasonable to expect a certain dress code to be in place, I would not want to sit in the restaurant with beer guts hanging out of sports tops etc. Smart shorts should be acceptable during the hot summer months.

      One of the joys of being on holiday is having the opportunity to dress up for certain occasions.

      To me its all about showing some respect both to the premises and the other guests around you.

      If you want to wear ripped jeans and scruffy T-Shirts etc there are plenty of other cheaper hotels that sort of dress code is acceptable in and no one will bat an eyelid.        More ...
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    • Hazel
      Hazel
      Tracy Ann To be honest, it didn't cross my mind about ripped jeans and scruffy t-shirts since that's not something I would think to wear, but you'veTracy Ann To be honest, it didn't cross my mind about ripped jeans and scruffy t-shirts since that's not something I would think to wear, but you've got a point there are those that would. I wouldn't fancy long trousers and shirt sleeves (if I was a man) on holiday in the summer but smart shorts would be fine.   More ...
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    • Carol Andrew
      Carol Andrew
      Yes, I think there should be a minimum dress code.

      I would like to see no beachwear and men wearing tops everywhere inside the hotel.
      At dinner IYes, I think there should be a minimum dress code.

      I would like to see no beachwear and men wearing tops everywhere inside the hotel.
      At dinner I think it should be 'smart casual' - the sort of thing you would wear if you were going to a nice restaurant.
      I think this should apply to all hotels - not just the 4 or 5 star 'designed for adults'

      The hotel must make this clear at the time of booking though so that people can come prepared.        More ...
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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      Carol Andrew I agree, beachwear (male and female) should be for around the pool area only, certainly not in the restaurant or even wandering aroundCarol Andrew I agree, beachwear (male and female) should be for around the pool area only, certainly not in the restaurant or even wandering around inside a hotel, even if I had a size 8 body to be proud of I would never wander around a hotel in swimwear.  More ...
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    • Derek
      Derek
      The "cover up" rule should apply to any eating establishment, it is nothing to do with being up market or posh. It is respect for others. But aThe "cover up" rule should apply to any eating establishment, it is nothing to do with being up market or posh. It is respect for others. But a formal or even smart dress code on holiday is a little too much I think, unless it is a special gala evening. You never know when someone's holiday is based around hiking or horse riding or some other similar activity. Do they really need to get dressed up to eat as they would if going out for the night.   More ...
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  •   Hazel commented on this post about 3 months ago
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    Derek The Devils Advocate (Benidorm's Debating Society)
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    Should we use All Inclusive, IS it worth the money. This could be a good topic for Debate. My opinion is that all inclusive is not worth the extra money in Benidorm. The costs of eating and drinking throughout the town are reasonable if not downright cheap. Why pay more? Opinions?
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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      For a couple, I don't think its worth it, unless you are planning to stay in the hotel and drink/eat all day, but for families it can still be goodFor a couple, I don't think its worth it, unless you are planning to stay in the hotel and drink/eat all day, but for families it can still be good deal, with the free soft drinks and ice creams etc.

      I think that all holiday resorts should offer ALL types of accommodation, and that is exactly what Benidorm does.        More ...
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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      I personally would not go to a AI hotel, but that's because I want to eat when I am hungry and not at set times and I like my freedom too much. II personally would not go to a AI hotel, but that's because I want to eat when I am hungry and not at set times and I like my freedom too much. I went to one many years ago and they would stop me at breakfast asking me what I wanted to eat for dinner that night.   More ...
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    • Anne with an E
      Anne with an E
      Years ago when we used to come as a family we always stayed at all inclusive hotels, as we found they worked out cheaper and the kids loved all theYears ago when we used to come as a family we always stayed at all inclusive hotels, as we found they worked out cheaper and the kids loved all the free drinks and entertainment etc

      When the children grew up, we then rented apartments, so we could do what we wanted and cook if and when we wanted to or go out and about.

      Now I come on my own, I am back to going to All inclusive hotels as I like the fact that you get talking to others in the dining rooms, I am never really alone, unless I want to be, there is always some company and I dont have to go out in town to eat, yes it works out more expensive for just for one of you, but I would rather pay that bit extra, the last hotel I stayed in AI was the Regente.

      As long as the town is not full of AI hotels, which would destroy local business, like above i feel its good that there is plenty of choices around,.        More ...
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    • Tracy Ann
      Tracy Ann
      Anne with an E I have never thought of AI hotels for solo travellers, but that's a very good point, especially for people who are not used toAnne with an E I have never thought of AI hotels for solo travellers, but that's a very good point, especially for people who are not used to travelling on their own, or those that do not know an area very well. x   More ...
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    • Hazel
      Hazel
      I used to book it when it wasn't much more expensive than half board - it was sometimes only £20-£30 dearer for the week to go AI. It also gives youI used to book it when it wasn't much more expensive than half board - it was sometimes only £20-£30 dearer for the week to go AI. It also gives you some security knowing that even if you spend all your money, you're still going to be able to eat ?  More ...
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